Writing Workshop

Bleh, so Niklas and I have agreed to try and write at least 2-3k words per a week, because he doesn’t like to write alone and I work best with deadlines. I didn’t really want to edit Nik’s first submission-being that it was a freakin’ mini-novel-but I figured I might as well use my degree for something.

I’ll give Niklas some links he can read over if he wants.
Punctuating Dialogue
Writing Dialogue
Writing Dialogue..Again
Writing Good Dialogue
And More Writing Dialogue
Dialogue Tips…ooh fancy
Incomplete sentences (he makes mention of dialogue here too)

Ok so maybe there is a bit of theme with all those links. However, it is a dialogue heavy story, so there you go. 🙂 I’ll probably come up with a different set of links during the next round of editing.

As for me, I’m wondering if I should try writing short stories. I don’t really like having people read a WIP, because what’s the point unless you have enough written to make your intent clear? But even then, I don’t know. I’m thinking of just turning in screenshots or something. I’m not really after feedback, after all, mostly just trying to get in the habit again. Actually that’s all I’m trying to do. And maybe do some character fleshing out, which is essentially brainstorming, and who wants people reading their brainstorms? Feels weird. Short stories are a pain in the ass to write, though, that’s the only thing.

It’s not that I’m opposed to feedback, just that I know how I am. During my college workshops I would rarely-in fact I can’t really remember ever doing it-read the line-by-line comments on a piece of work. Well, except poetry but that goes without saying. I also hated writing poetry, by the way. What I would read were the summaries of people’s critiques/suggestions. But such a thing would require a more complete submission. Also, I discarded most of those suggestions and only paid any real heed to about 25% of them. Some of that was because some people didn’t really have much to say (you were graded on whether or not you turned in critiques, so you had to do it), others just plain lacked reading comprehension, and some I just didn’t agree with. Likewise, it is easier to see where you really need to work if you have a lot of reviews: if a large majority had issues understanding a certain plot point, then you need to work on that. If pretty much everyone got it except two, well, maybe those two are special. So yes, I like feedback, but I’ve grown used to it being a little more, um, structured.

Checklist
I should in fact follow those guidelines with Niklas, and I will, but not on an 18k word submission! 😡 I actually have some critiques from school saved-ones given to me, not that I wrote-and I guess I could scan those and show.

And I have now scanned one (I don’t think anyone wants to see everything I’ve saved 😳 ):

So, where was I going with this, oh yeah, well that’s the kind of feedback I would read. I didn’t bother with looking back through their copy of my story to see any comments, I would only look at the overall impressions and the problems they felt were major enough to mention. And this is the kind of thing Niklas can expect if he decides to give me something more manageable to read. But, again, the problem is that example is based on a finished short story, not a WIP novel. :\ I guess I feel a bit like a fish out of water.

Oh god, in going down memory lane I forgot what I really wanted to mention! I have found this artist-Ludovico Einaudi-whose music does wonders for me while I am writing. It’s always hard for me to find music that can both inspire me, but also not distract me in the process. His album Divenire does that for me.

13 thoughts on “Writing Workshop”

  1. Hey! You makes Niklas not seem clever when you only say it was an absolutely horrible nightmare to edit it 🙁

    To give a fair picture here is what Marie told me personally:

    Marie: How on earth did you manage to write so much of high quality story in one week? The characters are amazing and I love the way you use dialog to tell the story.

    Niklas: Goodness, do you really think that?

    Marie: Yes. I read many stories while in collage, but yours is special. It shows how important talent is.

    Niklas: Aww, it is so sweet of you to say that.

    Marie: I’m just happy that I get to edit your work.

  2. Hi !!!

    Niklas: I’ll write to you today or tomorrow, I promise 🙂

    Well I know that my opinion isn’t necessary here, but I wanted to write what I think anywayz, so sorry 😛

    I think that dialogue isn’t really important for a story…

    I mean, there are parts where a good conversation is indeed required, but when the characters speak so much (for long paragraphs or even for entire pages) I get quickly bored and confused, feeling that the author is merely adding unecessary word count to make the book -but not the story itself- longer

    That’s what I like to call “water added to the juice”

    My style focuses on descriptions, feelings, colours and things taking place all the time, and for me writing my relatively short novels (from 45000 to 90000 words) is easy, and I think I would be unable to write something 250000 or more

    My characters speak only the necessary, and never for more than a short paragraph per turn 😛

    So, what are the advantages of a dialogue-heavy story ???

  3. I don’t think there is an advantage to a dialogue heavy story, just that is what Nik has written. *nods*

    I usually have to force myself to add more dialogue, because I tend to do more description of events.

  4. Maybe you write like me !!!

    Don’t force yourself to include more dialogue than necessary, Marie… it’s not really good for a story, unless you feel that it’s required indeed…

    What happens to me is that my novels usually have what I call lost scenes, and even lost chapters… a lost chapter appeared in my first Lash novel after I had finished, and then a lost scene, and the second novel had a very beautiful lost scene as well

    They are pieces of the story that were missing, and even though the narrative felt well without them the addition makes the story richer…

    Does that happen to you ???

  5. Short stories are usually stories with fewer than 7500 words.

    TF is undergoing some rethinking in terms of character backstories and world development.

  6. 7500 or less is very short, but writing stories like that can be fun !!!

    Well, my fanfics are the only stories that I write in that category, but I have great fun writing them after all… Would you like to check out the fics I have at fanfiction.net ?

    The range of my Lash novels goes from 64000 to 90000 words, but the first Lak novel is 45000 and I think that the second -advancing very good- will be around 34000

    They are shorter, but I think they are more concentrated and also more dream-like !!!

    Good luck with TF, I hope you finish it 🙂

  7. Guess what ???

    The other night, like two weeks ago, I had my window open and then a HUGE moth came in, and I had to chase it and I shot it down, but… I didn’t see where exactly it fell, and I still have the corpse lost here, somewhere 😛

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